Hall of Fame 2022 Ballot Preview: Jimmy Rollins As we continue our series on Hall of Fame ballot previews with the MLB shut down due to the coronavirus pandemic, today we look at Jimmy Rollins. 01/09/2018 at 05:43 PM. If you look at Ryan Howard for about four or five years there, Ryan Howard might have been the best hitter in the National League if you go by the number of runs he knocked in and the homers he hit and things like that. Show full articles without "Continue Reading" button for {0} hours. Hall of Famer Jim O’Rourke: Yale Law Grad in a Blue Collar Game; Candidates. Rollins's WAR at baseball-ref is 46.0. They also won two straight pennants and one World Series. Manuel does not have a vote, but he does have a valued opinion. But an MVP award and a team's all-time leader in hits will go a long way towards swaying some voters. Well, that player is Jimmy Rollins, and the answer is no. ‘Absolutely,’ Charlie Manuel says The Philadelphia Inquirer Jimmy Rollins will be on the Hall of Fame ballot later …. And their former manager is one of their biggest supporters. You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the comment feed for this post. Posted by: Jimmy Rollins bats during an June 2015 game against Buster Posey and the San Francisco Giants. Different era, but Rollins was almost as good of a fielder, better hitter (more hits, home runs and RBIs in 2 fewer seasons). This prevents automated programs from posting comments. 4 voters weigh in... is an advanced statistic used to compare candidates to those already in the Hall of Fame, Billy Wagner happy for former teammate Jeff Bagwell, hopes to get call to Hall himself, Former Phillies highlight upcoming Hall of Fame classes, Podcast: YWT: A Philadelphia Flyers Podcast, Sports Talk Philly: Philadelphia Sports News and Rumors. Only seven players — Pete Rose (Reds), Bert Campaneris (Athletics), Michael Young (Rangers), Tony Fernandez (Blue Jays), Garret Anderson (Angels), Luis Castillo (Marlins), and Luis Gonzalez (Diamondbacks) — were not voted into the Hall of Fame having held a franchise record for hits. Hall of Fame shortstop Barry Larkin, who starred for years as the shortstop of the Cincinatti Reds was asked if former Phillies shortstop Jimmy Rollins was a Hall of Famer and he said, “Yes, Rollins is absolutely a Hall of Fame shortstop”. Rollins's OPS+ is 95. It's too bad Rollins couldn't maintain for another couple seasons to achieve that, but time comes for us all. Topic Archived; Page 1 of 2; Last ; You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. Rollins' and Howard's careers are forever linked, and they'll be linked again later this year on the Hall of Fame ballot. Among the shortstops who rank above him: Jim Fregosi (48.7), Bert Campaneris (53.0) and Miguel Tejada (46.9). Career offensive numbers are quite comparable, but there are some notable discrepancies. So what are we supposed to make of that? A player needs to receive 75% of the votes by the baseball writers to be enshrined. hide. There’s plenty of time to debate Jimmy Rollins’ Hall of Fame credentials before voters receive their ballots later this year, but the man who had a dugout seat for the best years of Rollins’ career said Friday that the former Phillies shortstop belongs in Cooperstown. Error type: 3 former Phillies will fill out team's radio broadcast team in 2018, Playoff Comparison: Receivers and Running Backs. Rollins has more hits, home runs, steals, and runs than both of the Hall of Fame shortstops and a higher fielding percentage. He is the only NL shortstop to win four Gold Gloves since Ozzie Smith won 13 straight from 1980-1992. I saw his entire career, and I’m still not sure he’s a Hall of Famer. The newer guard will point to a relatively low on-base percentage and, as a result, an OPS that didn't crack .800. But I will tell you that during his time here, he was one of the best shortstops in the game and that’s kind of what you look at. I just hate the bias these voters have. A snapshot of his numbers and career would seem to say no. According to Baseball Reference, the average career bWAR for a Hall of Fame shortstop is 66.7 - Rollins has a 46.0. Best-case scenario he's a Veterans Committee inductee a long time from now. Jimmy Rollins is … Mike Lacy | I liked Ozzie, but besides steals and gold gloves, his offensive numbers stunk. Among the shortstops who rank above him: Jim Fregosi (48.7), Bert Campaneris (53.0) and Miguel Tejada (46.9). Jimmy Rollins, Mark Teixeira and Prince Fielder will enter the fray in '22, followed by Francisco Rodriguez in '23. Whether he finishes his run on the ballot with a speech at Cooperstown or just a plaque on the Phillies Wall of Fame remains to be seen. I think he’s underrated. The recent enshrinement of Barry Larkin, who appears on Rollins' Baseball-Reference page as the player most similar to him, has helped Rollins' Hall of Fame … You can't tell me that a guy gets in solely because he's a terrific fielder and can steal bases. But is he a Hall of Fame player? Young, Todd Helton (Rockies), Carl Crawford (Rays), Ryan Zimmerman (Nationals), David Wright (Mets), and Ichiro Suzuki (Mariners) are either active or remain eligible for the Hall of Fame ballot. 70% Upvoted. His lack of hustle and slightly above average offensive statistics tell me that Rollins is not an all-time great who deserves to be a Hall of Famer. Freddy Peralta thrills family with dazzling debut. He’s a better player than that.”. So, if you think Jimmy Rollins should be in the Hall of Fame, so should Alan Trammell. Let’s start with the easiest method for determining Rollins’ Hall of Fame candidacy, Baseball Reference’s Hall of Fame Monitor. He didn’t get the credit from a defensive side that I saw,” Manuel said. Strongly worded? Rollins is a career .269 hitter, which for a guy batting leadoff is a little pathetic. Perhaps. Connect with friends faster than ever with the new Facebook app. Cocaine-frosted corn flakes cereal seized in Ohio I'm not sure how I might evaluate Rollins when the time comes, but he certainly merits more than a cursory examination. But Rollins is already a borderline Cooperstown candidate at the moment, and if he can be instrumental in bringing a championship back to the Dodgers, that could be the final check he needs. Or at least not yet. How you played during your era and Jimmy was a difference maker. It was easy to imagine when Girardi was managing against Manuel in the World Series that the Phillies were playing with a roster of Hall of Famers. Since 1911, just eight other shortstops have totaled 2,400 hits. I would love to hear your opinions! His prime offensive years are good enough to warrant serious consideration. At his peak, Rollins was a Hall of Fame-level player. I look forward to assessing it one more time when that 2022 Hall of Fame ballot arrives in my mailbox. He finished with 470 stolen bases and 231 home runs. Led his league in runs, steals and triples. Here’s how he did it. Whether you can write the story of the history of the sport without Rollins or not will be something that Hall of Fame voters are forced to wrestle with for the next decade-and-a-half. The fact is Rollins got more out of his 5'8" frame than just about anybody not named Altuve or Morgan. Email address will not be displayed with the comment.). Maybe Rollins can get enough votes to stay on the ballot for a few years, but his resume probably falls short of HoF standards. And while there are going to be voters who say the metrics tell us he shouldn’t have won those Gold Gloves, here’s the deal. Jimmy Rollins‘ Release Makes One Think: Who Could Be Recent Players Worthy of the Hall of Fame That Have Flown Under the Radar? best. save. Some of the factors going into the score are batting average, hits, RBI, home runs, MVP awards, and All-Star appearances. And Rollins’ Wins Above Replacement totals (46.0) certainly don’t scream “Hall of Famer,” even though five Hall of Fame shortstops rank below him on that list. Ozzie has a slightly higher OBP and more steals, but he played two more seasons than Rollins. He also, of course, was a key member of the Phillies teams that won five consecutive division titles, two pennants and a World Series between 2007 and 2011. Is it OK to mention that Rollins hit more home runs than Ozzie, Aparicio and Vizquel combined? He probably should be.”. Sort by. In the meantime, Omar Vizquel is eligible for the first time in 2018 and how his case progresses will be interesting to monitor with Rollins in mind. Trammel and Larkin are in...Vizquel will get in at some point. Without taking a deep dive, I think I can venture to say that he and Chase Utley probably have the strongest Hall of Fame credentials of the position players that were part of the Phillies teams that won five consecutive division championships. Is Jimmy Rollins worthy of a trip to Cooperstown? That question has already been posed in regards to Utley for several years as he's wound down his career in Los Angeles, and the debate will certainly rage on between now and when he first becomes eligible for Cooperstown consideration after the 2023 season. Rollins won an MVP award in 2007 and a World Series with the Phillies in 2008. And how many other shortstops in history are in the 400-200 Club? He was a little pain in my rear end from time to time, but you expect that when you have a great player on the other squad.”. Is Jimmy Rollins a future Hall of Famer? Please try again. I always go back to this when the SS position is brought up. You can’t find any other shortstop who has done all of it. Rollins finished his career with a 49.4 fWAR, which tops Vizquel’s 42.5, despite Vizquel playing seven more seasons than Rollins. Posted by: Posted by Tim Kelly on 01/08/2018 in Phillies | Permalink But I’m convinced of one thing: you can’t find a single shortstop in history who did all the stuff he’s done. Rollins was one of the core members of a team that won five consecutive NL East titles. More hits than any player in the history of the Phillies, a franchise that has existed for 135 seasons. Red Sox bullpen's tightrope act will wear thin. I would say his production in the years we had him and the team winning might have something to do with him getting into the Hall of Fame. Your comment could not be posted. Of the Phillies of that era, I think he is the one that gets closest. Of course not is the immediate answer. The San Francisco Giants signed Jimmy Rollins to a minor league contract, giving him a chance in spring training to make the club or at least showcase for other teams. As of right now, I would vote for him. “We have Jimmy Rollins, we have Ryan Howard, we have Utley, and I think Cole Hamels is going to continue on pitching. As for the Hall of Fame, I think he's going to be one of those borderline guys who will get some votes but may struggle to get in. Returning Candidates. Outside of maybe three seasons, Rollins has never done much to impress me. Not OPS-Plus. share. Alan Trammell had better numbers across the board and he didn't get to 50 percent (he was eventually elected by the Modern Era baseball committee). Jimmy Rollins, SS, 2000-present. Now let’s add in defense. But that makes one dive into the numbers at Baseball-Reference to compare the numbers against Hall of Famers. The '24 ballot will bring Chase Utley, Joe Mauer and David Wright, among others. As a final step before posting your comment, enter the letters and numbers you see in the image below. (Kevin Durso/SportsTalkPhilly). 75 percent is a big threshold to get. As Stark noted, if we assume that Rollins' career is over, he will become eligible for the ballot in 2022. Rollins isn’t just in the discussion. And the Alan Trammell Fan Club will be happy to remind you that Trammell (70.4) crushes Rollins in Wins Above Replacement. Is a player like that a Hall of Famer? But he's a long-shot to reach the 75 percent needed for election. Is Jimmy Rollins a hall of famer? 2021 BBWAA Candidates. Trammell’s numbers compare very favorably to the average for Hall of Fame shortstops. 4y David Schoenfield. Rollins is the Phillies’ hit king, won four Gold Gloves, made three All Star teams, and won a Silver Slugger. For what it is worth, among others who were asked to comment for the story, Dan Shaughnessy of. Stayed healthy enough to play at least 140 games in 12 different seasons, a total reached in the last 40 years by only four other shortstops: Jeter, Ozzie, Vizquel and Ripken. As much as I love me some JRoll, he's not a Hall of Famer. Career Stats: .264/.324/.418, 2,455 hits, 1,421 runs, 231 HR, 470 SB It is easy to compare him to Barry Larkin in my mind. The letters and numbers you entered did not match the image. He didn't hustle, except for once: When he was chugging around the bases on the last day of the 2007 season for his 20th triple to complete the 20-20-20-20 feat. My guess is that Rollins will have enough support to stay on the ballot, perhaps for all 10 years of his eligibility, and he'll be a solid case for the Veterans Committee. Trammell's is 110. Comments (4). Of those players, though (with the exception of Halladay, who is already in), the Hall of Fame probably isn’t attainable. Bryce Harper and many of his Phillies teammates have reached the age where they should be peaking 5/8 Bob BrookoverRollins has more hits with the Phillies (2,306) than each of those players except Rose, who is banned from baseball, and Anderson, who had 2,368 for the Angels. Jimmy Rollins could be one big-time postseason performance away from cementing a Hall of Fame résumé. Real or not? “I think Jimmy was an underrated player. Sign Up for free (or Log In if you already have an account) to be able to post messages, change how messages are displayed, and view media in posts. 10/18/2017 at 09:45 PM. Jimmy Rollins, future Hall of Famer? 01/09/2018 at 04:51 PM. A switch hitter, steal bases, played very good shortstop. He carried a high average, especially for three or four years. Trammell's WAR is 70.4. Here's what they had to say: I've always been a Jimmy Rollins fan, and I enjoyed watching him on TBS during the postseason. level 1. But each player can make a claim for Cooperstown after they played integral roles in the greatest era in Phillies’ history. A score of 100 is a likely Hall of Famer. Rollins’ fielding percentage with the Phillies (.983) is the best among NL shortstops between 2000 and 2014 who played at least 1,000 games. But one thing I’ve learned, as a longtime Hall voter, is that we shouldn’t be looking at any one metric when we cast these votes. And the average JAWS - which, in an oversimplified world, is an advanced statistic used to compare candidates to those already in the Hall of Fame - is 54.8 - Rollins has a 39.2. Your comment has not yet been posted. Dave Dombrowski remade the Phillies’ roster in nine weeks. Six of the eight are Hall of Famers while the other two — Omar Vizquel and Miguel Tejada — have tarnished their candidacy with off-the-field transgressions. Only four other shortstops in history had as many hits and Gold Gloves as this guy: Jeter, Ozzie Smith, Luis Aparicio and Omar Vizquel. Had the longest hitting streak (38 games) of the last quarter-century. This thread is archived. But when a guy has had himself a career unlike that of any other player who ever played his position, he has assembled a compelling case for himself. Rollins, Howard, Chase Utley, and Cole Hamels each appeared to be on path for Cooperstown. “He was a guy who could do a lot of different things. Pete Rose, Carl Yastrzemski, Rickey Henderson, Cal Ripken, Nolan Ryan and Jim Thome were compilers.Rollins’ best and worst case for the Hall of Fame likely will be found in which players have gained enshrinement and which have been shut out.Barry Larkin is in the Hall of Fame without the numbers or durability that Rollins has. What we do know is that once Rollins becomes eligible, he's likely to be on the ballot for some time. He is not a Hall of Famer. Carlos Ruiz. With his average and on-base percentage, though, he would have had to be a compiler to get in, meaning he would have needed to reach some benchmark numbers like 3,000 hits. Just imagine how special he must have been to get those 19 other triples without hustling! Roy Halladay. And Rollins’ Wins Above Replacement totals (46.0) certainly don’t scream “Hall of Famer,” even though five Hall of Fame shortstops rank below him on that list. But that's a prediction of how it might go for him. Do I think he will get in? If Ozzie Smith is in, Rollins has to go in. report. That could be overshadowed by his status as the hit king for one of baseball’s oldest franchises. Kardashian-West divorce should be 'fair': Expert. Rollins has more hits, home-runs, runs scored and more steals. Barry Larkin's rate stats were even better, and it took him a couple ballots to be elected. Exactly two: Derek Jeter and Cal Ripken Jr. – two of the most slam-dunk Hall of Famers of modern times. My conclusion is that Rollins has had an impressive career, but it surely is not Hall of Fame worthy when compared to the other baseball immortals. Baseball-Reference’s similarity score says Rollins’ career aligns closely with Barry Larkin and Alan Trammell, both of whom are Hall of Famers.